Will and Marc suggest you not say the name of this episode aloud unless you're prepared to handle the consequences. They ignore that warning completely as they dig into the marriage that animates a key plot of Tim Burton's sophomore feature, BEETLEJUICE (1988).

Join in as they discuss sandworms, practical effects, Batman actors, and the wider Beetleverse, from animation to stage musicals to theme park shows.

Plus: What were the original title and casting ideas for this movie? Why aren't the Matinlands always wet? Should the dog have been killed? And whatever happened to the Hawaiian sequel Burton had in development?

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